tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post5490880204698435806..comments2023-08-22T07:18:07.555-07:00Comments on Princess Scooterpie - A Motorcycle Diva who likes to moto wander & write about it.: Moto AttitudeDar http://www.blogger.com/profile/14690180541358767168noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-41842949093405572852013-04-24T16:30:51.899-07:002013-04-24T16:30:51.899-07:00Once again proves my point that humans are and alw...Once again proves my point that humans are and always will be tribal. People always have to find a way to exclude from their group in order to stay "their" group. It's that way with fashion, music, cars, food, religion, on and on. <br /><br />Yes, the little 49ers (or 50) do get the snub a lot. But a lot of riders ride what they ride to be in a club or clique or tribe.<br /><br />Martha https://www.blogger.com/profile/02785787084073523841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-19437998807442622742013-04-23T21:52:28.008-07:002013-04-23T21:52:28.008-07:00Here's my take on you folks who replied here t...Here's my take on you folks who replied here to this post, you are all COOL and the only thing that matters to you is that we all ride and it doesn't matter what you ride. I love blogging with you and wish we could ride together! <br /><br />For the most part I float by all the attitude. However, I have engaged on a forum or two when I felt the commentary to be way out of line and/or what I have felt to be unreasonable, sometimes I fare ok, others times I just don't engage. <br /><br />Sonja - I started my own ladies riding group on Facebook and there are 69 of us now, we have a 50cc and a 400cc scooter and we invite the significant others along on our rides. We are pretty low key and our only rule is respect each other. Dar https://www.blogger.com/profile/14690180541358767168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-36615739349274159352013-04-23T20:01:33.189-07:002013-04-23T20:01:33.189-07:00Since I tend to ride alone, I've not run into ...Since I tend to ride alone, I've not run into the kind of thing you're mentioning. The group I do occasionally ride with has the slogan, "We don't care what you ride, just that you ride." <br /><br />The other day I past by a man walking with a walker and he waved, a nice low cruiser way, I laughed and waved back. Made my day totally.<br />~kKeith - Circle Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11992667666539622569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-14937043271799284312013-04-23T19:05:41.419-07:002013-04-23T19:05:41.419-07:00Too bad, Dar, that you don't live in the lower...Too bad, Dar, that you don't live in the lower mainland. The ladies' motorcycle club I belong to doesn't make a difference between make or model. We even cater to co-ed rides, so that hubbies can tag along on a trip. I am sure you would like it.SonjaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389245948579828531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-31284115614327516262013-04-23T14:29:55.755-07:002013-04-23T14:29:55.755-07:00At first I couldn't believe that you got that ...At first I couldn't believe that you got that kind of attitude about your scooter, then it changed to I couldn't believe you got attitude from any bike rider! I mean we are doing the same thing ... Riding, for much the same reasons, who cares what brand you ride. Then I realised that I've seen a bit of that too, I just don't take much notice of it. There is prejudice out there about all sorts of things it's a sad fact. How do I cope with it, I just ignore it, give that bloke on the Harley a wave and they either wave back or don't, either way their attitude doesn't hurt me as much as it hurts them. If I was in a group that were treating me the way those scooterists did to you I don't know what I would have done, gone home and cried most likely but I wouldn't have given up riding.<br /><br />Good on you Dar for moving on and finding you niche with a fantastic group of MOTO mamas! Brendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06395364582355269753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-36911124123481616552013-04-23T10:29:10.430-07:002013-04-23T10:29:10.430-07:00Dar, must be something in the water out there :)
...Dar, must be something in the water out there :)<br /><br />I've never experienced what you describe. Then again, I've only done one group ride with the on again off again Montreal scooter club.<br /><br />We did a ride that lasted the better part of the day. The bikes ranged from a bunch of 50cc two-strokes, to a couple of Maxis (Burgman and Majesty), various small-frame and large-frame Vespas, some vintage Vespa and Lambretta shifties, and... believe it or not, a mother and her two teenage sons on mopeds. Everybody mingled at the lunch stop and we all had a good time.<br /><br />My only beef: riding with the two-stroke crowd made my clothes smell like I had mowed 50 yards in a row.<br /><br />I know others have had similar experiences in your neck of the woods. Maybe it's sunlight deprivation that makes people insular and grumpy.David Massehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09346419242154545286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-36036522042332774542013-04-23T00:28:50.616-07:002013-04-23T00:28:50.616-07:00Unfortunately just because motorcycling is the coo...Unfortunately just because motorcycling is the coolest thing out there, it doesn't mean that it only attracts cool people - there are plenty of dickheads who put on helmets.<br /><br />I'm generally an equal opportunity waver although I tend to be a bit more hesitant to wave first when a rider of one particular fraternity (where a lot of riders think you need to slip on a certain attitude along with the branded riding gear) goes by...Andrew Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00716829007873864871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-40424826109121402122013-04-22T21:28:38.792-07:002013-04-22T21:28:38.792-07:00Dar:
As you realize that there is lots of 2-wheel...<b>Dar:</b><br /><br />As you realize that there is lots of 2-wheeled discrimination here in Vancouver. It just upsets me that people can't learn to be friends. Even though I used to belong to the Vespa Club of Canada and I had been to numerous rallies we were finally told that we were not welcomed anymore as we didn't ride a Vespa. Even the vintage vespas riders don't accept the TnG vespa riders. It's a shame.<br /><br />bob<br /><a href="http://www.wetcoastscootin.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Riding the Wet Coast</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05258612401956399482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-6982733435153174802013-04-22T19:13:59.688-07:002013-04-22T19:13:59.688-07:00This always makes for an interesting discussion. ...This always makes for an interesting discussion. I too am an equal opportunity rider; bi, tri, qui?? I'm at the point now where I can smile when I'm on one machine and get snubbed by one of the other groups. I do find great fun in riding the wrong machine to the right rally. I'm not willing to give up or lose faith....yet.<br /><br />There was an article long ago in the Mpls paper by a local columnist, his tale commenting on the often common trait of our desire to be unique and seen as standing apart (above?) from the crowd. I'll butcher his analogy but it went something like this....<br /><br />We decide to take up skiing and quickly discover that there are those with long skis and some with short skis; we go with the long ones. Before long, we learn of wide bindings or narrow, the narrow ones fit our personality better so we head off in that direction.<br /><br />Suddenly we're aware of red boots or blue, the cool people we know are "blue" wearers and then someone we admire discovers pink gloves, but we decide to go with the less common white ones.<br /><br />The following weekend we put out the word we're going skiing but there's only one person we know of that has long skis, narrow bindings, blue boots and white gloves. Skiing has become lonely and is no longer as much fun as it once was, so we give it up for a new hobby.Coop a.k.a. Coopdwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00914017974356686409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-13363611299629359972013-04-22T17:32:52.338-07:002013-04-22T17:32:52.338-07:00Maybe they all hold grudges because when a kid the...Maybe they all hold grudges because when a kid they rode a Huffy when everyone else was riding a Schwinn. I get snubbed by other Harley riders now because, drum roll please...I decided to start wearing a full face helmet again after taking the rider safety coarse and viewing pics of riders faces after a crash wearing an open face helmet. Hmm, perhaps there is a reason those are called open face helmets. WooleyBuggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15731631725262074662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-53458482055257375132013-04-22T16:25:13.387-07:002013-04-22T16:25:13.387-07:00Your a girl??? All this time I thought you were j...Your a girl??? All this time I thought you were just a rider on a motorcycle.<br /><br />Actually I think a lot of that "snobbery" is brought on my the media's picture of us. We are either speeding idiots, crazy daredevils or drug dealers. So we tend to paint a picture of "who we are."<br /><br />I'm guilty of it myself, I have little respect for the fair weather weekend rider who has a chromed out ride that only goes from tavern to tavern. Why? Because my bike is my main means of transport and I ride it nearly every day in all types of weather. That does not make me any more special than the weekender.<br /><br />As far as the biker wave goes, I wave at everyone and normally get the wave back in return. Scooters, Harleys and sport bikes.The City Mouse in the Countryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06522133156580411938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-29837668797930967622013-04-22T15:47:53.434-07:002013-04-22T15:47:53.434-07:00Brandi my feelings exactly. Brandi my feelings exactly. Dar https://www.blogger.com/profile/14690180541358767168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-17192557427311849032013-04-22T14:52:44.449-07:002013-04-22T14:52:44.449-07:00Heck we don't care what you ride and we wave a...Heck we don't care what you ride and we wave at everyone even those on bicycles.<br /><br />I don't understand why people have to be so judgmental about brand or model that others ride. We are all out there on two wheels facing the same dangers and issues on the road.<br /><br />I may shake my head at people who don't wear ATGATT but I wouldn't presume to tell them what to wear. I'll let the ER doctors and nurses do that as they are scrubbing out the road rash.Trobairitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03453398807198746434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-71451701836948190272013-04-22T14:23:30.523-07:002013-04-22T14:23:30.523-07:00Thanks Ally I just find it irritating and my toler...Thanks Ally I just find it irritating and my tolerance level for this kind of stuff is very low. If people truly lived riding they would embrace the diversity and encourage new riders to learn and be part of the community. Just as I have been judged by riders I have also felt the sting of non-riders who rely on old cliches and don't get it. I choose now to hang with the positive peeps and the others don't matter much now.Dar https://www.blogger.com/profile/14690180541358767168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-52273941686186237932013-04-22T14:01:42.027-07:002013-04-22T14:01:42.027-07:00I've faced (and suffered from) the same kind o...I've faced (and suffered from) the same kind of mindless discrimination you describe and, honestly, I just don't understand how those people think. In my short riding career (15 years), I've owned a variety of bikes, from sport to touring to cruiser, from a variety of manufacturers. What I'm sitting on today does not mean I couldn't be on a different bike tomorrow. Judging me this way is illogical -- and mean.<br /><br />I remember during my first year of riding, when I was super-eager and enthusiastic, some old grouch crushed my feelings by insulting the cruiser I was riding 'cause it wasn't a Harley. I felt really hurt by his unfriendly attitude.<br /><br />I respect everyone on two wheels, motorcycle or scooter. There are open-minded people like us around; I hope you find some.Shybikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15263331247319768989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-16373797986249037192013-04-22T12:39:12.532-07:002013-04-22T12:39:12.532-07:00BeemerGirl - I think most scooterists are shocked ...BeemerGirl - I think most scooterists are shocked when a motorcyclist waves at them because they are used to being snubbed, which is such a pity. <br /><br />I have on occasion had a few big cruiser bike riders start to wave and then only to pull back their hand when they realize I am riding a Honda and then there are a few who ride other bikes who never wave or even offer you the time of day at a stop. But for the most part I have had many really great experiences when I broke down once a dude in an SUV stopped on the opposite side of a busy road and loped across to help me, I knew he rode and he told me he did, and he was the only one to stop. <br /><br />Like you I wish everyone could just stop the bull crap and give respect that is due to their two wheeled compatriots. Dar https://www.blogger.com/profile/14690180541358767168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912722884165693795.post-43021910568290713282013-04-22T12:28:16.601-07:002013-04-22T12:28:16.601-07:00I'm like you. I just want to be out riding an...I'm like you. I just want to be out riding and for us all to get along. Luckily I haven't encountered some of the snubbing that you have. It might have given me pause. But I do find it humorous when I wave to a scooter, and he doesn't wave back. :) I'm being snubbed by the scoot crowd!BeemerGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15239761274177026636noreply@blogger.com